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Domain Name With or Without Hyphens?

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Hyphens or no Hyphens in My Domain Name?

This is also a long disputed discussion in the search marketing community. Technically hyphens are recognized as a separator (or space), so they should be used in instances where search engines may not correctly discriminate your keywords. For example, expertsexchange.com - is that experts-exchange or expert-sex-change? In all other instances hyphens are unnecessary, as search engines will correctly parse out the keywords. Not that that matters though, as Google largely ignores the content of your domain name (upon further investigation, we are finding that they keywords in your domain name play a larger role than we expected, especially for low competition keyword phrases). Either way, you should focus on the branding aspect of your name - ie. stick with one that is short, simple, and easy to remember, as that will pay off most with your visitors in the long run. Remember - cater to your visitor first, not the search engine. Read our article on Keywords in Your Domain Name for details.

 

Word of Mouth Marketing

There is one undisputed argument for non-hyphenated domains. And that is when you are marketing your domain name by word of mouth. It is much easier to tell someone to go to "guru of search dot com" than it is to try and get them to remember "guru hyphen of hyphen search dot com" Chances are they will forget the hyphens, insert them in the wrong place, or not know what a hyphen is to begin with. To avoid this confusion, it is recommended to either begin with the non-hyphenated domain, or have the hyphenated domain redirect to your non-hyphenated domain. That being said, if you market your non-hyphenated domain and people store links to it, your hyphenated domain will lose out on that link popularity.

The Myth of "Hyphen Dropoffs"

Many people have reported that they are seeing drop-offs in rankings of their hyphenated domains in Google SERPs (Search Engine Results Pages). Upon further inspection, however, the drop-offs are also being realized by hyphenated domains. The bottom line is that Google is constantly updating their search algorithms, so your page rankings will vary day to day, and often pages will be dropped from the index. But this has nothing to do with hyphens. Just imagine the risk Google, or any SE for that matter, would run if they penalized hyphenated domain names that ended up being high quality sites. A simple, crude filter such as this has nothing to do with distinguishing quality content - and the complex Google algorithms have been refined to a development point that is far beyond this.

The Myth of "Non-Hyphenated Search Results"

Others argue that most top results reveal non-hyphenated domains and therefore non-hyphenated domains are better. Of course the results are going to reveal more non-hyphenated domains. Why? Because it has traditionally been the convention to obtain non-hyphenated domains, so the majority of sites use these - hence the majority of results contain non-hyphenated domains. The simple fact the the SERPs also contain several quality multi-hyphenated domains is evidence that these domains are not being penalized. The bottom line is quality - sites will quality content organized in quality fashion (see SEO Site Structure) rank well, regardless of domain name technicalities.

 

The Myth of "Non-Hyphenated Popularity"

There are those that believe that people are less likely to click on hyphenated domains because of their association with spammy sites, and because long-lasting traditional domain names tend to be hyphen free. We're not aware of studies having been conducted on the influence this has on current search patterns (please comment below if you are), but so if this is an issue for you we suggest you go with a non-hyphenated domain name if possible.

The Fact of "Hyphenated Spam Domains"

Others will point out that multi-hyphen domains are rapidly disappearing from SERPs. This is no doubt the case - because of the fact that the hyphen-separated keyword domains have been used by spam sites. The reason they are disappearing is not related to the hyphens, however - it is the spammy content and poor quality of the sites. The fact that many of these sites use hyphens does not mean that the penalties are resulting from hyphen use.

Hyphens or Underscores?

If you are in a situation where you must use hyphens to differentiate keywords correctly (as in the above example), then it is important that you use hyphens, and not underscores. While Yahoo and MSN may correctly interpret underscores as hyphens, the predominant search engine, Google, does not (ie. it reveals different results for hyphenated and underscore searches, treating the underscore as a character instead of a space).

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Domain names strategies

I’ve seen many articles on how to choose a domain name written but in very few of them (if any) have I see a discussion on the type of traffic that you will be wanting to build your website/blog around. Thanks for the nice post. I enjoyed it completely.

Updates

Glad you enjoyed it! We're making regular updates as we learn more and as search engines tweak their algorithms.

Hyphenated domain with redirect from non-hyphenated version

What do you think of using a non-hyphenated domain name for literature, brand recognition, and memorability with a redirect to the hyphenated version for search?

Grabbie

Depends on the domain

In most cases, I would stick with the non-hyphenated domain name for everything. The search engines are smart enough to discern what your name means, in most cases. The only time I would insert a hyphen is if, as explained in the article, the name could be mistaken for something else (ie. experts-exchange.com (expert's exchange) vs expertsexchange.com (expert sex change)

Should I keep hyphen?

I own chickenpaprikash.com and chicken-paprikash.com. My site is on chickenpaprikash.com without the hyphen. There are currently 8000 searches per month for the keyword "Chicken Paprikash" on Google. I rank on the second page of Yahoo, MSN and Bing for the keyword "chicken paprikash" but I am not to be found on the top 20 pages on Google.

I have only been online for about a month but before I start getting backlinks and get established, should I try putting the site on chicken-paprikash.com with the hyphen? Is Google able to tell that the url is two words rather than 1 without the hyphen in the name.

Thanks,
Chef Rick

Keep un-hyphenated domain

Hi Chef Rick,

I recommend you stick with ChickenPaprikash.com (un-hyphenated). Google is good at splitting words, and the un-hyphenated version has an advantage when it comes to type-in traffic, word of mouth marketing, etc.

The reason you're not showing up on the front page of Google is mostly likely due to the fact that it's much more difficult to rank in Google for certain keyword phrases than it is on Yahoo or Bing. With time, you'll get up there. Try to focus on creating unique and relevant content for your users. Your time is spent more wisely here than it is worrying about backlinks.

Good luck! Let us know how it goes.

Thanks

I just wanted to say thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I believe I will keep the un-hyphenated version. I have talked to several people and they all have different opinions. I was counting on my .com name being a searched "keyword" to rank higher in Google.

Thanks again,
Chef Rick
ChickenPaprikash.com

Chicken Paprikash

Good thing you did - your site is number 7 on page 1 of Google for "Chicken Paprikash" Smiling Remember, content is king.

As an aside, if your website is called Expert's Exchange and your domain name is expertsexchange.com, Google and other intelligent search engines will figure out your website has nothing to do with Expert Sex Change. Just do a Google search for "Expert Sex Change" and you'll see my point. Ultimately the content will determine your page rank, not how you punctuate your domain name.

Hyphens in country domains

I find that some countries (Germany (.de domains) for example) actually prefer hyphens. I was at a tennis tournament in Hamburg recently and was amazed at how many hyphenated domains were being advertised. They're definitely easy to read - but the question begs, will users enter the name with the hyphen when they get home to their browser? I'm guessing it depends on the overall Internet habits of the populous. In the case of Germany, probably yes, because they're used to seeing hyphens. Here in the U.S.? More doubtful...

Google doesn't ignore domain keywords

"...Not that that matters though, as Google largely ignores the content of your domain name..."

I don't think that's true. I registered a domain name, and parked the site with pretty much nothing in the site, and it still shows up high for the keywords in the domain name.

You're right

You're absolutely correct. Some studies we've done since writing this article show that keywords in the domain name do have a considerable effect. This is probably so that people searching for company names can find what they're looking for. Competition definitely plays a role (highly competitive keywords are very difficult to rank for, even if you have all the exact keywords in your URL), but for less competitive keyword phrases we notice a boost in rankings when those keyword phrases are present in the domain name.

You should also take into account type-in traffic to your website. This is from visitors typing your domain name directly into their address bar. This is particularly relevant for domain names that are short, simple, and generic (ie. dictionary words), or that have a very high search volume.

[Ed: 2011 update: Google has been adjusting their algorithms to place less emphasis on keywords in domain names.]

Dropping the hyphen

I don't think that hyphens have anything to do with the strength of a sites' visibility on the web. The key issue to consider, in my humble opinion, is in the "talk-ability" of the site when introducing others to it or telling them verbally.

When I first started my business, somebody already had my business name in a URL so I used a hyphen. This became a big problem in telling others about my web address. I eventually dropped the hyphen on my Clearwater Real Estate site and went to a dot net address (BullardRealty.net) as opposed to the former hyphenated version.

I am happy that I did!

Using .net in domain name before hyphenating

You bring up a really good point, thanks for sharing your insights. We're glad you ended up with a domain name that you're able to market more readily.

As you mention, a key factor that should be considered, especially if you don't plan on getting the majority of your traffic from search engines, is how easy it will be to market your domain name verbally. Tell a friend, over the phone, the domain name of your website, and without asking them to specifically do so, see if they remember it the next day.

While a .com is easier to remember than a .net (most people default to trying .com), in certain cases it may be that a hyphenated .com domain name, as you point out, is even more difficult to remember than a .net domain. The best way to test this theory is to try it out on a small group of people and see if there's an obvious difference.

Better rankings without hyphens

Hi, Without a doubt people who use hyphens in their domain name will not rank as high as people with domain names without hyphens. Just test it yourself. Go to Google and search for a keyword.

When you see the results you will see websites without hyphens in the first results. There are so many white hat techniques you can use to rank on the first page of Google. It is even possible to rank in Google In 60 Seconds.

Cheers,
Andy

More domain names without hyphens

The fact that there are more search results pages of domain names without hyphens merely suggests that there's more domain names without hyphens out there. Google's series of algorithm updates over the years suggest that they are neutral about the presence of hyphens.

This makes sense considering the saturation of the domain name market. Just because a company is unable to obtain an unhyphenated domain name, doesn't mean they should be subject to punishment by the search engines.

There are plenty of other factors that determine how sites are ranked. Don't spend your time worrying about whether or not your domain name has hyphens for ranking purposes. More important is whether people will remember to insert the hyphen when they type your website name into their address bar.

Hyphen in domain names

Like this article suggests, the only time a hyphen makes a significant difference is in word of mouth marketing. Take a look at your web analytics (ie. Google Analytics): if you're getting the majority of your traffic (90%+) from search engines, then it doesn't matter how long or convoluted your domain name is - most of your traffic is from clicks.

That being said, a hyphen will always be more difficult to convey and remember. Imagine being at a cocktail party and telling your friends and coworkers about your latest website venture: "yeah, check it out at bla bla hyphen bla hyphen dot com." Chances are, even if they remember the name, they won't use the hyphen.

Tough question for you

Which is a better domain name for SEO purposes ekeywordphrase.com or keyword-phrase.com?

Hyphen or E

That's a good question. That would honestly depend on the specific keywords you're talking about. For example, I like eDigest.com better than Electronic-Digest.com, but Blue-Widget.com better than eBlueWidget.com. In general, I would go with the hyphen unless the "e" really makes sense or is semantically part of the keyword phrase (ie. if it is short for "electronic" or a similar keyword).

Country extension in domain name

Thank you for this article. It is well written and explained well with examples. Please tell us something about the importance (or negative aspects of) country name extensions in domain names; specifically third level domain names, etc. How does this apply in searching, in terms of SEO credit, etc.

Country-coded domain name extensions

Country coded domain name extensions (ccTLD's = Country-Coded Top Level Domains) really come into play outside of the United States. In the U.S., the .com extension predominates and is preferred over .us. However, elsewhere in the world, usually the country coded extension is preferred, especially for local businesses.

It all depends on your business model. If you are catering to customers worldwide, and are not associating yourself with a specific country, try and get a .com domain. If, on the other hand, you are associating yourself with a particular country or have a large customer base in a particular country, consider registering the country-coded domain extension for that country (ie. example.ch for Switzerland). If you do go with the country-coded extension, it's not a bad idea to get the .com variant as well, if possible, to help protect your brand.

Hyphens

With the few good options still left in the unhyphenated domain, I'm amazed that this is still even an issue.

I agree with you

I would have to agree. It makes no sense to me that a domain name would be penalized for any reason, other than maybe containing adult keywords (in which case it will probably simply be re-categorized, not penalized - ie. it will be more difficult to place in non-adult search results).

The fact is, the domain name market is like a hugely over-bloated and saturated real estate market right now. Domain names are slim pickin's, so I would think search engines would concentrate more on website content and less on domain name keywords.

Search Engine Friendly website

Hi We Rock Your Web readers and posters far 'n wide .... I've just found this site though a Google search, and as soon as I landed, I suddenly realized that your Google ranking is in the top 10 of about 1,010,000 (without hyphens). You're really "walking the talk" Smiling

I've been trying to understand how to get the most out of keyword research. It was getting kinda brain twisting the deeper I got into keyword research. I've been getting more confused - somewhere along the lines of "information overload," if you know what I mean.

This is partly due to the plethora of great tools available for free online. They let us really dig deep, wide, long, and short, for keywords. Enough results to fill a book ... However, thank goodness I've cracked it.

Well, the first cut is the deepest, so to speak Eye-wink Check this out - my first attempt to gain a ranking with a dead domain name but with some really good content in house though that has not done me or the site any favors in the SEO rankings since day one? I've book marked this great page of info. Thanks We Rock Your Web!

Plus I will spread your link around in my social networks. Thanks for your input and understanding.

Cheers, and all my best to you,
Phillip Skinner

Don't let keyword research overwhelm you

Look up the term latent semantic index and then remember the following:

  • 2-3 keywords or phrases max per page to "optimize" for.
  • Include them in the H1, Title, Description, Keywords and first sentence of the content.
  • Include the latent semantic keywords (the words that normally appear on a page that has a specific keyword already).
  • Break your PPC (pay per click) keywords up along the same lines as your narrowly targeted content.
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